Marvin Shilmer

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  Any news about the Watchtower's Toxic Waste Dump cleanup?

  by VM44 in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  this is from 2011. http://marvinshilmer.blogspot.com.au/2011/12/whistleblower-watchtowers-dump.html.

  is there any recent news concerning the toxic waste cleanup?.

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  I have an acquaintance who's worked at Watchtower's farm facility for decades. He operated heavy equipment and later supervised these operators. These days he's doing something else, but still at the farm. Back when this was all hitting the fan he said something to me in cryptic language about late-night digging and burying of materials. I replied with some cryptic language of my own and immediately he knew his code talk was understood by me beyond what he expected me to know. He clammed up tighter than a cinch knot!
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  Atheist Miracles

  by Perry in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i reworded a variation of a common critique of atheists to my own liking.

  no, i do not hate atheists, i love them!

  they keep me from getting bored.

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  First, there was nothing. Then, nothing acted upon the nothing and caused nothing to explode. Out of the exploded nothing, came everything and everywhere.

  That is wrong on so many levels I wouldn't know where to begin picking it apart; so I won't. It speaks for itself. Screams is more like it.

  "First, there was nothing." Wow!
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  Would you call JW HQ???

  by DATA-DOG in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i have a friend who is still in.

  this friend is a partaker, but has serious doubts about the org.

  this friend wants to stand up as a man, and wants to call wtbts hq.

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  Your friend can call, and it might make your friend feel better that he or she did what they could to help the cause. But many have tried this before. Thousands! Watchtower's higher-ups do not give a rat's ass what the rank-and-file "anointed" think about anything whatsoever. Watchtower is running a business, and it's a very profitable one.
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  "Normal family affections and dealings" continue - If only?!?

  by LHS123 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i am new to this forum - it is only a couple of weeks since i have allowed myself to acknowledge and research my doubts.

  i am trying to be fair by reading both sides of the story and considering jw official explanation of confusing matters.

  one of the issues i have been looking at is shunning - and i was shocked to see the misleading information about shunning on the jw.org website: .

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  “Normal family affections and dealings”?
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  Shutting down the Judicial Committee "invite".

  by kairos in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  judicial committee invitation comes, with be there or be square consequences.. ( come or we will df you ).

  what are the sure fire, tested and true tactics that will keep the elders off your back?

  ( for good ).

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  Says the masters to the slaves: "... you must do so in writhing..."

  I know it's got to be a typo, but still...
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  Sunday talk (4/26/15): Malawi persecution experiences

  by StarTrekAngel in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  so this sunday we arrived at the meeting late.

  like towards the very end of the public talk.

  local elder delivered the talk.

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  Watchtower and Malawi Made Simple
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  The Problems with Blood Fractions

  by God_Delusion in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  hi guys & gals,.

  i've written a new blog on the problems with blood fractions.

  i'd really love to hear your feedback on it.. http://www.jehovahswitnessblog.com/blood/the-problem-with-blood-fractions.

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  Your article is well done.

  From Watchtower’s Blood Stance Exposé :

  
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  The Watchtower's cash flow problems and financial solvency with lawsuits payouts

  by Brokeback Watchtower in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  i think with all this change we see occurring with the watchtower corporation's to deal with things means they are in financial trouble and are seeking to consolidate their real estate holdings for easy sale if needed to stay financially solvent.. they will stop or slowly decrease the door to door work and focus on the material potential of each member young and old for what ever they can get out of them.

  this will lead to more leaving under their tyranny.

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  The Watchtower organization is laced with cash. My guess is their using cash to building a financial foundation that is practically untouchable and will support its activity for the indefinite future even if they lose every single donor down the road at some point.
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  Blood Transfusion: Letter of Understanding

  by defender of truth in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  http://ajwrb.org/science/blood-transfusion-letter-of-understanding.

  "every parent among jehovahs witnesses worried about how local watchtower appointed elders will respond to letting their child have blood transfusion without opposing it should download this letter of understanding and be ready to hand a copy to them.

  then ask those elders to leave them (the parents) and doctors alone to concentrate on the childs best interests.".

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  Talking fundamentally, in terms of time, looking back at your posts, the only changes I see are in the drafting of your broadcast. No point for you to continue this discussion with me, all my posts say the same thing-As far as I know.

  That's about as perfect a non-answer as I've ever read.
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  Blood Transfusion: Letter of Understanding

  by defender of truth in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  http://ajwrb.org/science/blood-transfusion-letter-of-understanding.

  "every parent among jehovahs witnesses worried about how local watchtower appointed elders will respond to letting their child have blood transfusion without opposing it should download this letter of understanding and be ready to hand a copy to them.

  then ask those elders to leave them (the parents) and doctors alone to concentrate on the childs best interests.".

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  Fisherman,

  I don't know what your motive is, and really don't care. But your analysis of this discussion and assertions of fact is quite entertaining to read.

  The document at issue is an agreement. You don't seem to like this. I don't know why, and really don't care to understand, but it is entertaining to watch.

  Fundamentals of the document at issue are known by Watchtower and those fundamentals represent a change in Watchtower policy compared to its 1992 position. You don't seem to like this either. I don't know why, and really don't care to understand, but it is entertaining to watch.

  Executing the document at issue (or its equivalent) can make the difference of life and death for a child. This notion also seems to get under your skin. I don't know why, and really don't care to understand, but it is entertaining to watch.

  In this discussion you've had evidence handed to you at every turn. What do you do? Ignore it of course, and then come up with strawman illustration to assert a fallacy of me. I don't know why you do things like this, and really don't care to understand, but it is entertaining to watch.

  So, here's my question to you: Do you see any difference between fundamentals of the letter of understanding document compared with Watchtower's published 1992 policy? If so, what?